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Looking at buying some metal and wheels soon, and I've decided it's either going to be a Crown Victoria or a Jeep Grand Cherokee (used, of course).

The problem is (Jeepwise), I'm having a hard time deciding which is a "better"/more reliable Jeep - the ZJ or the newer WJ?

I'm also undecided between getting the mostly bulletproof 4.0 I6 engine, or a V8 model.

Does anyone lurking the forums have any suggestions or experience?
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As far as the US is concerned you've got 5 engine choices between the 2 generations.


ZJ 4.0 L6 / 5.2 V8 / 5.9 V8
WJ 4.0 L6 / 4.7L V8

Given those choices if you are just looking for an all around solid daily driver with a usable on-road powerband find a later model WJ with the 'revamped' 4.7HO V8 engine.

If you intend spending more than 15% of your time off pavement you'll want the I6 for its low powerband but I doubt you fall into this category.

If you want to be an obnoxious **** and try to make a brick on wheels go fast, see if you can track down a 98 ZJ 5.9L.. difficult to come across in good shape but an awesome truck.
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JoeShmo wrote:
As far as the US is concerned you've got 5 engine choices between the 2 generations.


ZJ 4.0 L6 / 5.2 V8 / 5.9 V8
WJ 4.0 L6 / 4.7L V8

Given those choices if you are just looking for an all around solid daily driver with a usable on-road powerband find a later model WJ with the 'revamped' 4.7HO V8 engine.

If you intend spending more than 15% of your time off pavement you'll want the I6 for its low powerband but I doubt you fall into this category.

If you want to be an obnoxious **** and try to make a brick on wheels go fast, see if you can track down a 98 ZJ 5.9L.. difficult to come across in good shape but an awesome truck.

Thanks for the tips! Unfortunately, a newer model WJ is probably out of my price range (I'm looking to spend MAX $2000, aiming for cheaper than that though). I've found a couple WJs with the regular 4.7 in the price range in the summer/fall, but now that it's winter they're all gone.
I'm thinking that unless I find a great deal on a WJ, I'm gonna go ZJ.

I actually have been looking and trying to find a 5.9 ZJ, but as you said, they're hard to come across. What's your opinion of the 5.2? I've found plenty of those Razz

And I'll probably try to spend some time off pavement, since it IS a Jeep, but it probably wouldn't end up being 15% of my time.

My parents actually had a WJ with the 4.0 and the Selec-Trac transfer case, but they didn't feel like having bodywork done so they scrapped it...
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The 5.2 is a dog, avoid it at all costs. You should probably keep your eyes open, I just saw a pretty built 4.7 WJ go for $3500 the other day. Even if you didn't have that kind of money it had $2500 worth of suspension and tires you could have sold off for smaller stuff.
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So I guess I should update this and say that I'm currently trying to get a '98 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9 Very Happy

2700, will come certified and etested (aka ready to put on the road trouble-free). Can't wait for the test drive Razz
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Make sure it can go off-road. if you know what I mean Wink
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wannagoodcar1 wrote:
Make sure it can go off-road. if you know what I mean Wink

Oh I think it'll manage Razz

Not gonna beat the crap out of it offroad though, it's going to be a daily driver for me.

I just can't wait to beat all the idiots around here in their fart canned sunflowers with a brick on wheels, as JoeShmo put it Razz
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Good luck. They certainly have their issues so make sure its gone over very well.

Keep in mind, 'fast' by 1998 SUV standards really doesn't mean much.. you're typical stock GTI or the like will walk all over it. Don't think its a rocketship please.
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Am I the only one thinking twin turbo? Embarassed
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JoeShmo wrote:
Good luck. They certainly have their issues so make sure its gone over very well.

Keep in mind, 'fast' by 1998 SUV standards really doesn't mean much.. you're typical stock GTI or the like will walk all over it. Don't think its a rocketship please.

Yeah, I'll be googling and/or hitting up jeepforum.com to find out what to look for. And of course, I'll get it checked by a mechanic before buying it as well.

And haha, I understand. There's just a lot of people around here with slowww cars thinking they're the **** because of a cheap body kit and some shiny rims (even some spinner-hubcaps...)

wannagoodcar1 wrote:
Am I the only one thinking twin turbo? Embarassed

I can't see myself having the money for that (and all the other stuff that must be done to prep it) for at least 5 years. I think I'd turn it into a 408 stroker before going with forced induction anyway Smile
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If you end up with a 5.9, dig around this subforum on JU. It's more or less DEAD at this point, but theres TONS of good tech buried there if you search, it used to be the hangout for all the 5.9 guys who have since moved on to bigger and better things.

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
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JoeShmo wrote:
If you end up with a 5.9, dig around this subforum on JU. It's more or less DEAD at this point, but theres TONS of good tech buried there if you search, it used to be the hangout for all the 5.9 guys who have since moved on to bigger and better things.

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11

Alright, thanks for the link! I'll probably end up going through some of it tonight Razz

edit: After checking that site out, I'm surprised there's still quite a few active and knowledgable people on there! Then again, I guess that's kinda the case here/at other mm forums too.
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Well, today (finally) I'm going to check out a '98 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9.
I guess we'll see how it goes, and what's broken
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b12man wrote:
Well, today (finally) I'm going to check out a '98 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9.
I guess we'll see how it goes, and what's broken

Driving it home next Saturday Thumbs Up
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